what the @#%, Leave shantyville immune
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Joel Autobaun Posted Feb 16, 2013, 2:03 am |
Seriously when did this happen? Last PvP change?
people can leave shantyville immune to pvp. What a joke stick a fork in me i'm done. |
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*Bastille* Posted Feb 16, 2013, 2:42 am |
don't lose an eyeball man. | ||||||
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Serephe Posted Feb 16, 2013, 3:07 am |
Yes, just like it's possible to intercept in SS again. 
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Lord Foul Posted Feb 16, 2013, 3:08 am |
Looks like it was back in Sept.
Scripts v.300, pvp changes Basically if your flag is off, you can't be touched even in Shanty. This was Sam's decision and was not put to a vote in the RC. I know Longo tried to talk Sam into keeping Shanty open no matter what your flag status is set to(which I agree with), but nothing came of it. |
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Krakhedd Posted Feb 16, 2013, 5:47 am |
Goes back to leaving SS totally immune, if you want Shanty to be open, in order to maintain a certain level of equality. I could also question the fairness of intercepting courier/trainers with seasoned, elite gangers, but perhaps pleas for fairness and equal opportunities fall upon blind eyes in this forum?
Or, how about the reduced traffic in Texan? If I take a Narcotics courier package in SS, for delivery to Texan, do I get extra time to deliver it, in order to account for the increased distance to go around Shanty? |
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*Longo* Posted Feb 16, 2013, 6:08 am |
I was on the RC when the big Pvp changes happened. Shanty was supposed to be OPEN Pvp. When Sam put up the final poll to the community to vote on the last Pvp changes, he forgot to include Shanty as Open Pvp. I caught it right away and he replied that we would vote again on it another day...which never happened.
Hey its free fun scoring awesome loot here Joel! I have hauled in a few buzzers and a Buc with 100% laser in 1st two days here...and I was also retarded a few events and let a FT and 2 buzzers get away. What hardware do you want bro? Send me a Xmas list, I will have it all and nobody can touch me scoring it, its easy! Why would I bother with BL or FL? |
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Serephe Posted Feb 16, 2013, 6:18 am |
Because you can loot the same stuff without having to ship ammo over there. Plus, I haven't seen a squadcar or ambulance in Shanty yet.  I haven't seen anyone attacked for farming loot in Shanty, either.
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*Longo* Posted Feb 16, 2013, 6:20 am |
Things are gonna change Sere! 
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*StCrispin* ce.services.mh@gmail.com Posted Feb 16, 2013, 6:55 am |
There are lots of cool stuff Scouting BL towards Sarsfield or even the other direction (SF>BL) Ive seen McFlys, Buzzers, Laser Buccys, Trash Trucks and even a Bus. (havent seen a FE, but then again I havent seen one ANYWHERE yet)
No reason to scout Shanty when Sars and BL are just as good. I'd pull my crew out entirely if it wasnt for the fact they hang out there for the occasional "change-of-scenery" scout and for CoE. But I remember in one forum of the many where this was debated, that it was said Shanty being non-open was the trade off for SS being non-closed. Either way I dont care much, open or closed. But if you make it open, provide couriers the ability to bypass it and go right to TX without either going 1600 miles to Sars and backtracking through those absolutely terrible maps from SF>TX or getting tagged by someone wanting to mess with people for giggles. |
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*Longo* Posted Feb 16, 2013, 9:30 am |
It wasnt the trade off, it was simply an error in Sams polls....and SHanty was designed to be a shortcut to Texas although a bit risky... |
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*goat starer* Posted Feb 16, 2013, 9:33 am |
this is riduculous... it was an unintended consequence of the changes made... it has been raised many times...
should be put back the way it was supposed to be asap |
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Joel Autobaun Posted Feb 16, 2013, 7:12 pm |
I was out of it - I thought you guy were bitching that you couldn't intercept arrivals in shanty (which you should - it's DANGEROUS in shanty).
But not intercepting at all is fked - remove it from the map it's a monty hall with zero risk. |
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darthspanky Posted Feb 16, 2013, 8:38 pm |
lol you guys bitching for nothing, firelight was suppose to be a town for pirate players, cant even buy a rifle in market when yer honored in fl. | ||||||
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*Bastille* Posted Feb 17, 2013, 1:32 am |
lol whats a monty hall? doesn't he do those tourist shows?
and you can buy a rifle, just talk to me |
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Joel Autobaun Posted Feb 20, 2013, 6:00 am |
anything going to happen to change this? | ||||||
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*Longo* Posted Feb 20, 2013, 11:00 am |
Ask the RC? |
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*goat starer* Posted Feb 20, 2013, 12:05 pm |
we have an RC? |
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PvtParty Posted Feb 20, 2013, 12:21 pm |
Remote Control? |
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*goat starer* Posted Feb 20, 2013, 1:19 pm |
Redundant Chumps | ||||||
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*Snipe* Posted Feb 20, 2013, 5:12 pm |
now, that isnt very nice goat
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*Brunwulf* Posted Feb 20, 2013, 6:21 pm |
In most cases, more like the 'Recluse committee'
I see DC is no longer even a subscriber after his heartfelt pleas to be voted in not 3 months ago! |
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Joel Autobaun Posted Feb 20, 2013, 8:26 pm |
Ok.... RC PLEASE FIX THIS |
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*goat starer* Posted Feb 20, 2013, 8:48 pm |
REFUSE COLLECTORS!!! | ||||||
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*Snipe* Posted Feb 21, 2013, 2:12 am |
Just so you guys know - I posted about this to the RC forum right after this thread started. Just because you don't see results - don't think that we do nothing. It should be well-known that the RC has no power to actually change anything. That is up to Sam the man. | ||||||
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Joel Autobaun Posted Feb 21, 2013, 2:52 am |
Thank you. |
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Lord Foul Posted Feb 21, 2013, 5:58 am |
Honestly, I would suggest continuing to PM Sam about it. I believe there is a better chance you'll get a quicker response from Sam than going the RC route.
As far as I know, no one past or present on the RC wanted Shanty to be a safe zone. Sam made this choice and he will have to be convinced to put shanty back to what it was. If enough players PM Sam, it may convince him to correct it. |
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*Brunwulf* Posted Feb 21, 2013, 9:07 am |
Can't someone set up a vote YES or NO thingy?
Then SAM can see the strength of opinion for each option. (I would do this- but I don't know how!) |
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*Bastille* Posted Feb 21, 2013, 9:46 am |
The Poll | ||||||
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*Brunwulf* Posted Feb 21, 2013, 3:34 pm |
oops. Sorry- ok | ||||||
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Joel Autobaun Posted Feb 21, 2013, 4:22 pm |
No need shanty is a PVP town this is a bug not an opinion. |
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*goat starer* Posted Feb 21, 2013, 6:42 pm |
True... It was an error... Sam has said as much. Just get it changed. |
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*Bastille* Posted Feb 22, 2013, 3:43 am |
Well regardless, the The Poll is in full favour. Not sure if anyone has read the The Poll and no JD, its not a spelling mistake, favour, has a u in it. | ||||||
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Joel Autobaun Posted Feb 22, 2013, 3:58 am |
the poll did well ? then unrestricted pvp should be fine | ||||||
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*Splash* Posted Feb 22, 2013, 4:37 am |
I agree, if it really was a mistake; no poll is needed.
P.S.: And if you've seen me in the CoEs, you know how much I hate poles. Bah-dum-BUM!
"Thanks, folks, I'll be here all weekend..." 
P.P.S.: Not that I have anything against the Poles; I am Hungarian, so it's almost like we're neighbors, depending on who the damned Germans are invading this decade. Whoa! I should stop now... 
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*Longo* Posted Mar 5, 2013, 5:18 am |
Fix Shanty! | ||||||
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Joel Autobaun Posted Mar 5, 2013, 5:19 am |
Fix Shanty! | ||||||
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*goat starer* Posted Mar 5, 2013, 12:16 pm |
FIX SHANTY !!! 
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Necrotech Posted Mar 5, 2013, 12:51 pm |
Fix Goat!
Wait, err,.... Umm....... Fix Shanty! |
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*Brunwulf* Posted Mar 5, 2013, 8:22 pm |
Fix all the leagues!
No... wait... that's the Alleys job! (Just kidding Necro- ya know I love ya!) Just fix Shanty then please SAM |
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*Tinker* Posted Mar 8, 2013, 11:20 am |
ditto...Fix Shanty! | ||||||
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*Bastille* Posted Mar 8, 2013, 11:52 am |
Ain't thems the mafia, it should be their job
..with its own race league
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*Brunwulf* Posted Mar 8, 2013, 12:06 pm |
YESSS! Good Idea. Transfer the 2 Morgan tracks to Shanty, and setup a very lucrative sponsered league there with a new badge, to entice players to run the PVP gauntlet to enter. (Then Necro can blast everyone who tries to travel there, and Joel can win the Shantyville league every season!) Seriously though, I think it's a good idea to write off morgan and just transfer the 2 tracks to Shanty. Better 1 'alive' town, than 2 'dead' towns surely? |
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*Bastille* Posted Mar 8, 2013, 12:51 pm |
Good place for a mixed league, Ped Combat with creatures and carz (2 events), races, DRs, Combat
Pentathonol |
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*Ninesticks* Posted Mar 8, 2013, 8:21 pm |
Write off Morgan? No chance, it needs some love and attention for sure to get it working 'right' - but they have to be some of the most enjoyable maps in the game (imo). | ||||||
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*Longo* Posted Mar 8, 2013, 9:48 pm |
Yep, Make a new map for Shanty...I did one years ago, but Sam didnt like it haha |
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*Bastille* Posted Mar 8, 2013, 11:55 pm |
just have to get him on tequila night
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Lord Foul Posted Mar 9, 2013, 1:50 am |
Everyone in this thread should try to PM Sam to get Shanty the attention it needs. If he gets enough PMs he may get the hint.
Sam's not around as much as he used to be. |
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*goat starer* Posted Mar 9, 2013, 9:50 am |
yeah.. he is pff making millions from derivative apps... no longer cares about us 
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*Bastille* Posted Mar 9, 2013, 10:27 am |
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*goat starer* Posted Mar 9, 2013, 1:34 pm |
i did not say that... i said making millions |
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Jake Nikodemus Posted Mar 13, 2013, 4:23 pm |
Fix the whole damn thing and scrap the flags altogether.
.....that would put the issue to rest for good. I have had my flag open for over a year, and have only ran into two other squads. Both were truced (shame on me, right?). It was my little experiment. The experiment told me the game community is too small to warrant any kind of PvP restrictions. So there. I was a big fan of the flag only if it worked everywhere. That way, a player could choose how to play. But the more I play, I see the whole flag idea is flawed/broken. We are supposed to be shooting at each other out there in the wilderness, not in the forums, as so often happens. I for one, look forward to shooting at whoever is in front of me (provided I am not too tired to pull the trigger). Yeah you might get my stuff, but its just stuff. This is just a game. Loss and rebuilding is what makes an epic tale. Like when we were all starting. Remember when one bad scout set your gang back days of playing. Well that feeling is never coming back until we start bleeding each other out there in the wild. So maybe I would feel different if somebody was hunting me down. Maybe. I don't know. I'm not sure I've done anything to warrant be hunted, but then in a game where the objective is to shoot and loot... what should one expect? -Jake |
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Joel Autobaun Posted Mar 13, 2013, 4:52 pm |
Congrats...you get it... I strongly suspect every darkwind player eventually sees this. |
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Blackwill Posted Mar 13, 2013, 5:16 pm |
+1
I posted several months ago that this is a combat game, and combat should be expected by everyone, everywhere, at all times. If the idea of engaging/being engaged by another player is abhorrent to you, you may be better served by playing Solitaire or The Sims. |
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Necrotech Posted Mar 13, 2013, 6:03 pm |
Spot on.... +1
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*goat starer* Posted Mar 13, 2013, 6:20 pm |
+1 as well but i suggest rollercoaster tycoon |
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Necrotech Posted Mar 13, 2013, 6:41 pm |
Sam... change this user to "Troll Starer"
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*DoubleTap* Posted Mar 13, 2013, 8:00 pm |
I recall a recent vote about PVP and PVE and how they might live together (albeit not in peace and harmony.) I recall the vote being rather one sided. I therefore respectfully ask two questions. Isn't this what the vote was about? Why is it being brought up again?
By the way, fix Shanty. |
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Jake Nikodemus Posted Mar 14, 2013, 9:06 am |
The vote. I remember voting. Got a vote for mayor coming up in April. I was a huge fan of the flag being meaningful in more areas and welcomed that change, In the end though, the folks that claimed the forced PvP would chase them from the game until it was changed back, never returned. I said many of my mates would not return if the flags were of limited use. Yes, many of them quit and never returned (Maybe they never really liked Car Wars after all.).
They refused to return even after being made aware of the expanded use of the flag. My point is the flag has done nothing but erode the player base (from my perspective) which is not good for business, For this reason alone I would scrap it if I were in charge. I have seen how this community behaves and we have our tiffs, but when somebody does something egregious, those with the ability bring the hammer down. Being able to flag up does not allow the hammer to hit. Yup, I am a big fan of PvE too. I like to do PvE all the time. It's really all I ever do. If I could just do PvE and sell my junk to the rest of you I would. It's just how I roll. The hybrid system is no good though and the online nature of the game is what it is. As an aside. I played a whole pile of Car Wars events and still plan to do more in the future, and rarely have I had a character survive an event. Well for me the flag experiment is over, I have burned it. No I didn't want to re-hash this as I'm still having a hard time sitting down from the last hash of the flag. I did not mean to hash it at all. This is my response to fix shanty. I still think everywhere or nowhere for the flag. If it must remain, make it unchangeable for the duration of the subscription or 3 months, whichever is shorter. But seriously this flag stuff is really Mickey Mouse. Just look at the ridiculousness of it all. Really? My big idea to fix it is to change the interval for flag changes? Duct tape is all that is. No, tape won't do, there needs to be a permanent fix. Guess if I felt like counting bullet casings I could go to scavenger. Or just keep my flag open and forget the whole thing and avoid the forums for another few months....... Yup, gonna keep playing and forget about it. -Jake |