*sam* Posted Nov 30, 2012, 3:17 pm	This patch brings in the new, properly-textured stormer! Thanks muchly to Tinker for fixing the borked uvs, and JeeTeeOh for making a bunch of awesome new skins for it  :-)
*Longo* Posted Nov 30, 2012, 3:47 pm	Great work guys!
*Jagged Monkey* Posted Nov 30, 2012, 4:19 pm	Cool. Will we have to redo our old skins?
*Jagged Monkey* Posted Nov 30, 2012, 4:36 pm	Went through the new Stormer skins. I'll have to repaint.
*sam* Posted Nov 30, 2012, 4:57 pm	Yep, the old skins will all have to be scrapped. I removed the custom skins from any that had them; you can delete them from your account yourself.
*JeeTeeOh* Posted Nov 30, 2012, 5:10 pm	YEEEEEEE HAW!!! Thanks, *Tinker* for doing the horrible and painful part. MANY thanks. The only reason I never drove Stormers was they were too damned ugly. Yeah, I like guns. But aesthetics count too. And thanks *Sam* for whatever ordeal was involved in their implementation. ("Now where'd I put that blasted so-and-so....?") And *Rev V* is responsible for the front grille and rear end. Truly a team effort. Oh, happy day!
*The X Man* Posted Nov 30, 2012, 5:24 pm	Great job to all who had a hand in this big project!! Very nicely done!! I can now start on my project that has been on hold for months, waiting for this day to arrive, Thank You!!
*JeeTeeOh* Posted Nov 30, 2012, 9:28 pm	Have done a couple of wilderness bits with the Stormer... is it just me, or is it riding kind of high? Maybe it always did.
musashi_san Posted Nov 30, 2012, 10:13 pm	awesome guys! though i did kinda like the one with the flames...
*Bastille* Posted Dec 1, 2012, 12:34 am	Its always looked quite high. Maybe why I like it so much New skins look good G.. only seen the green one so far as all mine are now green. The Renowned Bullitt needs a paintjob
*Bastille* Posted Dec 1, 2012, 12:46 am	The Old The New
*Bastille* Posted Dec 1, 2012, 12:48 am	it does look to be more of a gap between wheel arch and wheel on the new, to be honest.
*Rev. V* Posted Dec 1, 2012, 4:39 am	If we could have spinning hubcaps, we'd be ballin'.....
Tez Posted Dec 1, 2012, 10:55 am	THERE IS A GOD
*sam* Posted Dec 1, 2012, 11:55 am	I could nudge the body down a tiny bit if ya like?
Serephe Posted Dec 1, 2012, 11:58 am	Personally I think it looks better now. Does it handle ok?
*Bastille* Posted Dec 1, 2012, 12:06 pm	it might just seem that way? I really don't know. They still handle great. Is it meant to have the same characteristics?
*sam* Posted Dec 1, 2012, 1:37 pm	The handling is identical - what I did was replace the visible mesh, without touching anything else. The visible mesh is not part of any calculations or physics - (the collision mesh did not change)
DieselCougar Posted Dec 1, 2012, 7:11 pm	*Rev. V* said: If we could have spinning hubcaps, we'd be ballin'..... Or axles.
*Tinker* Posted Dec 1, 2012, 8:33 pm	DieselCougar said: *Rev. V* said: If we could have spinning hubcaps, we'd be ballin'..... Or axles. better, flying axels
FireFly Posted Dec 1, 2012, 11:59 pm	Ahhh, I've sworn by the Stormer since I first started playing. Really, I'd say it's the best 3.2lv8 muscle in the game. Just don't get it bouncing, lol
*Rev. V* Posted Dec 2, 2012, 2:13 pm	Yes, Sam, if you could drop it a bit to match what the old ones looked like in the pics that JeeTeeOh posted, that would be sweet. But it's not a huge priority or anything...
*JeeTeeOh* Posted Dec 2, 2012, 11:16 pm	Personally I think it looks cool either way, but the present height is inconsistent with other muscles. Handling, as Sam said, is no different... and neither is the legendary "Stormer bounce." Just an observation, really, as I'm used to the muscles riding a bit low and mean. Higher makes more sense from an apocalyptic Baja 1000 perspective, though.
FireFly Posted Dec 3, 2012, 12:33 am	From the rally perspective, muscles are complete nonsense
Serephe Posted Dec 3, 2012, 12:47 am	Depends how you see your muscle cars, Fly. I don't see this doing much better in our brand of rally.
Blackwill Posted Dec 3, 2012, 2:05 am	I've won rallies in a Stormer, before....they don't do too poorly.
*Bastille* Posted Dec 3, 2012, 2:20 am	great offroad car. great climber. looks good, smells good, sounds good...
*Rev. V* Posted Dec 3, 2012, 4:36 am	They say that about my nuns too....
*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted Dec 3, 2012, 5:19 am	For those who don't know Rev....... Here he is. THIS is Rev and his band You should go and see his band play!..... You never know if it's a nun or a monkey you get... BUT you get your money's worth! Ray Stevens had NOTHING to do with this post..... He may not even play with the good Reverend.....
*Bastille* Posted Dec 3, 2012, 8:05 am	*Rev. V* said: They say that about my nuns too.... Oh right, yeah. I take it all back
*StCrispin* ce.services.mh@gmail.com Posted Dec 4, 2012, 3:56 am	The new is definatly higher. U can see on the new, the bottom of the bidy aligns with the top of the rims. In the old it aligns between the rim and the tire center about a 1/3rd of the way from rim edge to wheel center. On the rear wheel anyway. Thanks for the skin correction by the way!
*Bastille* Posted Dec 6, 2012, 3:10 am	**ALL ENGINE MODS STUFF HAS BEEN MOVED BY MARSHAL ME TO DARKWIND DISCUSSIONS»ENGINE MODS Here** Seems to make more sense to be there.