*sam* Posted Dec 8, 2011, 5:00 pm	This is the first of two or three patches which moves weapon mount-points (generally raising them, on smaller vehicles) and re-scales certain vehicles based on the detailed calcs. made by Bastille. These vehicles are in this patch: Hotrod Alpha Royal Eaton DeVille Vampire Symphony Pickup Sunrise Stormer Phoenix Moose Fire Engine Windsor Windsor II If any of the above give problems, let me know..
GrowlingBadger Posted Dec 8, 2011, 5:15 pm	Will this mean existing skins on those vehicles don't fit? GB
*sam* Posted Dec 8, 2011, 5:17 pm	No, skins won't be affected. The paint magically stretches or something..
*Bastille* Posted Dec 8, 2011, 5:27 pm	A trick they do with mirrors Fantastic! Thanks heaps sam :-) That must have been fun
*Tinker* Posted Dec 8, 2011, 10:40 pm	Man those rocket launchers look nice
*Bastille* Posted Dec 9, 2011, 3:39 am	I was about to same the same about the machine guns, gattling guns and CGLs When this patch hit, I took out Downtown and Borris (two of my fav windsors to check the size). Wish id waited till morning, Im now short two Windsors and two veterans.
*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted Dec 9, 2011, 11:51 am	Use that patented "Kangaroo Kick" buddy ..... If all else fails give them a sword across the neckline! That'll stop them for sure!
*Tinker* Posted Dec 9, 2011, 12:09 pm	spectating an event yesterday i noticed a demoed pickup that was siting on it's rims, it looked very cool wonder if it was a fluke or if it's been like that all along.
*Bastille* Posted Dec 9, 2011, 2:38 pm	Ive had a few similar, but none that cool
johnny go Posted Dec 11, 2011, 7:27 pm	OMG!!! i disapear for 6 months and some loon gose and runs whith my half arsed idear!!!!! thanks tinker, yer a god damed hero however this dose mean i may have to re-sub :-)
*sam* Posted Dec 11, 2011, 10:18 pm	*Tinker* said: spectating an event yesterday i noticed a demoed pickup that was siting on it's rims, it looked very cool wonder if it was a fluke or if it's been like that all along. Did it have 4 blown tyres? Also heavy chassis damage can contribute. One of the things that happens is that the suspension gets looser and looser
*sam* Posted Dec 11, 2011, 10:19 pm	johnny go said: OMG!!! i disapear for 6 months and some loon gose and runs whith my half arsed idear!!!!! thanks tinker, yer a god damed hero however this dose mean i may have to re-sub :-) Thanks for your work on them, johnny! And yeah, Tinker is great.. he has great persistence too
FireFly Posted Dec 11, 2011, 10:51 pm	*sam* said: *Tinker* said: spectating an event yesterday i noticed a demoed pickup that was siting on it's rims, it looked very cool wonder if it was a fluke or if it's been like that all along. Did it have 4 blown tyres? Also heavy chassis damage can contribute. One of the things that happens is that the suspension gets looser and looser You know, It's sad to hear that because while it sounds cool, no DW player ever kept chassis around that long when they got damaged
*Bastille* Posted Dec 12, 2011, 4:44 am	Almost tempting to find out. *sam* said: johnny go said: OMG!!! i disapear for 6 months and some loon gose and runs whith my half arsed idear!!!!! thanks tinker, yer a god damed hero however this dose mean i may have to re-sub :-) Thanks for your work on them, johnny! And yeah, Tinker is great.. he has great persistence too + 1
johnny go Posted Dec 12, 2011, 9:39 am	*sam* said: johnny go said: OMG!!! i disapear for 6 months and some loon gose and runs whith my half arsed idear!!!!! thanks tinker, yer a god damed hero however this dose mean i may have to re-sub :-) Thanks for your work on them, johnny! And yeah, Tinker is great.. he has great persistence too persistence is the key  , i just pesterd tink in to doing all the real work then disapeard :-)
*Tinker* Posted Dec 13, 2011, 11:08 am	Noticed the symph's rear weapons are sticking out the top oddly
*sam* Posted Dec 13, 2011, 7:03 pm	I'll tweak the symph's rear guns again in the next batch. Regarding the pickup.. that model was actually made somewhat larger, but its wheel size and suspension length were unchanged. Let me know if any resized models cause trouble with their wheels/suspension!
d0dger Posted Dec 13, 2011, 11:16 pm	*sam* said: I'll tweak the symph's rear guns again in the next batch. Regarding the pickup.. that model was actually made somewhat larger, but its wheel size and suspension length were unchanged. Let me know if any resized models cause trouble with their wheels/suspension! TEC was concerned about his fire engines after the size change, the thought they were tilting toward the back, higher in front and lower in back...
*Bastille* Posted Dec 14, 2011, 2:57 am	I have not noticed the FE... nor that the pu looks odd in any way. (*see below) It not really that noticeable, but I think it looks better next to other vehicles now. *sam* said: I'll tweak the symph's rear guns again in the next batch. Regarding the pickup.. that model was actually made somewhat larger, but its wheel size and suspension length were unchanged. Let me know if any resized models cause trouble with their wheels/suspension! EDIT: Are the wheels on the PU and susp length maybe a tad small now? I might agree there sam. I made up some templates a while back for comparing sizes, I believe they are saved for public use. The FE looks much better, as does the Moose, Stormer and the Windsors. Mounts on the rear of cars; If they are positioned too high, weapons like the rocket booster could look odd. (love that Rocket Booster)(bracket just for the sake of it) (TAC:Vehicle size compare 2 for reference) LF says, and I agree that the wheels on some hot cars and the Motorhome would look better as the cobra style rims? is this something that can be thought about while changing sizes, is this something that is even wanted?
*sam* Posted Dec 15, 2011, 5:41 pm	Suspension lengths and wheel sizes fixed in the database to reflect model size changes: - pickup - vampire
*Bastille* Posted Dec 15, 2011, 8:58 pm
*sam* Posted Dec 16, 2011, 1:10 am	*Bastille* said: with more to come! that wasn't my sum total achievement for the past 72 hours or anything ;-)
Fifth Posted Dec 16, 2011, 1:44 am	*sam* said: Suspension lengths and wheel sizes fixed in the database to reflect model size changes: - pickup - vampire Now, if only I had money, so I could re-sub and check out my Vampires...
*Bastille* Posted Dec 16, 2011, 5:04 am	*sam* said: *Bastille* said: with more to come! that wasn't my sum total achievement for the past 72 hours or anything ;-) Trying to cram in all these presents before Christmas... Is it really Samta Clause?