*sam* Posted Jan 17, 2011, 8:13 pm	This patch expands the lobby 'monitor town gates' function so you can now monitor all towns at once. Also.. it drives slow, it's tough as nails, it climbs 75 degree inclines.. I bring you: the Wurzel! Many thanks to wolfsbane for converting this model, and skinning it too!
*Ninesticks* Posted Jan 17, 2011, 8:15 pm	Oh my, I want one.
*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted Jan 17, 2011, 8:18 pm	Ecky thump .. all those Norverners gonna be goin mad for one of their top rides
*Rezeak* reecestensel@hotmail.co.uk Posted Jan 17, 2011, 8:18 pm	Any indication of the rarity of these? EDIT: And also, where's my 'spy on all players' function?
Dreamthief Posted Jan 17, 2011, 8:18 pm	I want a Brand New Combine Harvester...and you can have the key!
Fifth Posted Jan 17, 2011, 8:32 pm	Can we make one of these as a NPC Trader vehicle found in the SS/Elms area? Because you know the pirates up there would hit farms sooner or later.
*sam* Posted Jan 17, 2011, 9:04 pm	They certainly should be fairly common in the north, yes.. I can't see the NPCs using them effectively though.
iceman Posted Jan 17, 2011, 9:05 pm	"tough as nails" = tougher than an apache? It would be nice if these became a slow poor man's landy/apache
FireFly Posted Jan 17, 2011, 9:08 pm	Actually, 30 points per side, buzzer strength armor... Just dont should hallelujah till you see how fast they are
The Underking Posted Jan 17, 2011, 9:19 pm	How much space do they have? They could be okay as lobber or sniper vehicles in an npc design.
Serephe Posted Jan 17, 2011, 9:22 pm	220 bulk 90 unexposed engine, I believe.
iceman Posted Jan 17, 2011, 9:35 pm	Serephe said: 220 bulk 90 unexposed engine, I believe. 4L 2 Crew, 2xHMG rear with reloads and crawl away as fast as you can.... ....how bad could it get?
The Underking Posted Jan 17, 2011, 11:16 pm	Wonder how it handles high recoil, it's a bit tall and all.. But it could be made into a viable (although snaily) sniper build maybe..
*Rezeak* reecestensel@hotmail.co.uk Posted Jan 17, 2011, 11:22 pm	*Sam* said: Many thanks to wolfsbane for converting this model, and skinning it too! Shame he forgot about the front axles!
*Wolfsbane* Posted Jan 17, 2011, 11:25 pm	I didn't forget about the front axle.  Someone forgot to check the right box when they imported the model.  Naming no names, of course
*Burden* Posted Jan 17, 2011, 11:39 pm	The enemy uses Symphonies. Of course they can use these things
*Bastille* Posted Jan 17, 2011, 11:52 pm	Cool beans! Neato Wolf.
Fifth Posted Jan 18, 2011, 12:57 am	One of these as a sorta-Polt (HMG/RL would be a nasty bugger to face. Waaaaaaaant. How maneuverable are they? (I'm guessing not very.)
Zephyr Posted Jan 18, 2011, 1:08 am	Very nice updates, on both counts. Can't wait to get my hands on a Wurzel and test it out. I'm thinking if it's good with inclines it might do well in the extremely hilly areas down south... perhaps as a marginally mobile firebase bunker using CGLs (not big enough for mortars) that can crawl into a spot where the enemy can't get to it. When it travels, does it still use the standard 30 MPH inter-city travel time?
Fifth Posted Jan 18, 2011, 2:31 am	if they are indeed Common, how ong will it take for Wurzers to start appearing in shops?
Triferus Posted Jan 18, 2011, 2:47 am	Wurzel added to Table of Chassis in the Wiki. Just needs armor points data.
Triferus Posted Jan 18, 2011, 2:48 am	*Wolfsbane* said: I didn't forget about the front axle.  Someone forgot to check the right box when they imported the model.  Naming no names, of course I hope it gets fixed then.
John Abaddon Posted Jan 18, 2011, 3:12 am	Triferus said: Wurzel added to Table of Chassis in the Wiki. Just needs armor points data. 30 units per side, 120 total...
Lord Foul Posted Jan 18, 2011, 4:11 am	John Abaddon said: Triferus said: Wurzel added to Table of Chassis in the Wiki. Just needs armor points data. 30 units per side, 120 total... So tough as Nail's, but with a top speed of about 35mph with a 4L on flat ground, it won't be escaping anything. lol I don't expect to see many players joining a deathrace in these too, unless they don't want to win or live. Assuming you'll be able to put the time aside needed just to do a deathrace at 30+ MPH around a track. Assuming you live long enough, it will take you in the area of 30 minutes just to do a deathrace on northern speedway, just think how long it would take on the much longer tracks. lol
Fifth Posted Jan 18, 2011, 4:16 am	Lord Foul said: John Abaddon said: Triferus said: Wurzel added to Table of Chassis in the Wiki. Just needs armor points data. 30 units per side, 120 total... So tough as Nail's, but with a top speed of about 35mph with a 4L on flat ground, it won't be escaping anything. lol I don't expect to see many players joining a deathrace in these too, unless they don't want to win or live. Assuming you'll be able to put the time aside needed just to do a deathrace at 30+ MPH around a track. Assuming you live long enough, it will take you in the area of 30 minutes just to do a deathrace on northern speedway, just think how long it would take on the much longer tracks. lol in fact, we did a Deathrace in Haymakers - Wurzels with FOJs and MMGs - they're fun. CHAOS on the track!
Lord Foul Posted Jan 18, 2011, 4:26 am	Fifth said: Lord Foul said: John Abaddon said: Triferus said: Wurzel added to Table of Chassis in the Wiki. Just needs armor points data. 30 units per side, 120 total... So tough as Nail's, but with a top speed of about 35mph with a 4L on flat ground, it won't be escaping anything. lol I don't expect to see many players joining a deathrace in these too, unless they don't want to win or live. Assuming you'll be able to put the time aside needed just to do a deathrace at 30+ MPH around a track. Assuming you live long enough, it will take you in the area of 30 minutes just to do a deathrace on northern speedway, just think how long it would take on the much longer tracks. lol in fact, we did a Deathrace in Haymakers - Wurzels with FOJs and MMGs - they're fun. CHAOS on the track! Yeah, I noticed someone created an event.  I'm sure it's chaotic and fun blasting each other at low speeds, but as I mentioned you would not join one to try and win, just cause fun chaos. Just like the "Boxer" box van deathraces, few join them to try and win, just blast the crap out of everything. I want to see someone use one in a scout/travel to see if the armor outlasts the weapons fire as you have to fight what spawns at slow speeds..
Fifth Posted Jan 18, 2011, 4:31 am	I want one for the wilderness for precisely that reason. Because I always fight my battles at 80MPH, and I think there's room for something slow and heavy.
*Dark Tempest* Posted Jan 18, 2011, 4:40 am	Now that we have a high horsepower low speed vehicle we need something for it to pull! Trailers and tow chains are next right Sam?
Karz Master Posted Jan 18, 2011, 5:14 am	^Bikes please, before my very first cyclist dies. She has been waiting for more than 20 years and counting
John Abaddon Posted Jan 18, 2011, 10:30 am	Thay are pretty slow, though I haven't taken mine out yet to find out for sure. Not sure I wanna do that in BL...lol...
Triferus Posted Jan 18, 2011, 10:31 am	John Abaddon said: Thay are pretty slow, though I haven't taken mine out yet to find out for sure.  Not sure I wanna do that in BL...lol... DW:T maybe
Rokkitz Posted Jan 18, 2011, 12:35 pm	I liked playing in the event! I am proud to be the first official death in a Wurzel too =) Thanks Sam! Two things though; 1) I would like them have only one front weapon slot. it would make it a bit different, and also quite logical given space on the front. 2) I would like to see an arena combat (tractor destruction derby type). 4L wurtzel with rocketbooster, Re-ram (and spikes if they still have two weapons). It would be quite safe given the speed limitations on these beasts...But still enjoyable.
Oscoda Posted Jan 19, 2011, 7:15 pm	Just ran into one of these in a scout, and it can hit 60+ downhill on sand dunes with a 4.0l pretty quick. I'd like to see what it can do with a 5lV12.
Lord Foul Posted Jan 19, 2011, 10:56 pm	Oscoda said: Just ran into one of these in a scout, and it can hit 60+ downhill on sand dunes with a 4.0l pretty quick.  I'd like to see what it can do with a 5lV12. So as long as you don't scout in only dune buggies, you're pretty safe from these things. Not sure how these would ever be a threat in a scout unless they spawned in an ambush 60m in front of you. As long as you're moving away they'd always be the last one to join the battle. lol
John Abaddon Posted Jan 19, 2011, 11:38 pm	Lord Foul said: As long as you're moving away they'd always be te last one to join the battle. lol Yup, that's how I looted mine...
Triferus Posted Jan 20, 2011, 12:46 am	Wiki needs comfirmation for the Wurzel's chassis weight and the number of seats for those who have one. Some people are saying the information on the Official Chassis Types page is incorrect.
John Abaddon Posted Jan 20, 2011, 12:59 am	Yeah, only has 2 seats total.
*sam* Posted Jan 20, 2011, 10:32 am	The official chassis page is actually a direct read from the database, so it can't be wrong
Triferus Posted Jan 20, 2011, 11:24 am	*sam* said: The official chassis page is actually a direct read from the database, so it can't be wrong  hehe good to know. I think we've got it sorted now.